Flaws

Did nobody else notice the title? King and Emperor are not title of the nobility. Also where are all the other numerous titles of nobility? Earl isn't listed, to mention just one...--Cameron* 15:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, you're right! I've noticed the title Ranks of Nobility, as well as the royal and imperial titles, but haven't realised that tose two don't go together. So, shall we remove King and Emperor or rename the template? Surtsicna (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

If we switch count with earl we can keep it as "British Ranks of X", however as it is it is rather Eurocentric. All of the titles in the following category need to be included really! See how many there are! Category:Noble titles --Cameron* 21:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Too many indeed. Can we have Template:Ranks of European Nobility, Template:Ranks of Chinese Nobility, etc? Do we need such templates at all? Surtsicna (talk) 22:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd actually prefer national ones. That way they can stay at their current size...--Cameron* 13:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Please no. There are already far too many templates which subtly deviate from one another in the royalty / nobility domain - if this really gets someone's goat then a parameter should be added to selectively show or hide the disputable entries, rather than forking the template. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Baronets are not nobility. Kittybrewster ☎ 23:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC) how many barons can a king like king john have —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.211.107 (talk) 08:38, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't 'Lord' and 'Lady' be on this table?

No, Lord and Lady are not ranks but styles. --L.Smithfield (talk) 10:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

My understanding is, in Britain at least, the nobility comprises peers (earls, dukes, viscounts, marquesses, barons) and gentry (baronets, knights, and 'gentlemen'). It doesn't included royalty.--204.40.1.129 (talk) 16:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

The ranks of Baronet and below are not noble in the British system. However, they (or their equivalents) may be considered as part of the lower nobility elsewhere (like in continental Europe). --L.Smithfield (talk) 10:42, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Infante should be omitted or replaced by Duque

I'm not sure Infante belongs here. It is not a rank, but an attribute of a person who is of the Spanish blood royal. It is somwhat like a Royal Duke in the UK, or the British meaning of "prince" as a close descendent of a sovereign. No one in the UK carries the style of prince except those in the Royal Family. It is not a rank.

In Austria and some other areas, the rank of Duke did not exist, and the title "Prince" was used as the name of the rank above Count. It is only for that reason that Prince is included in this table.

Spain has a rank of Duke: Duque, and I think we should be using that here in place of Infante. There are many Spanish families ranking as Duques, only one has Infantes. --StanZegel (talk) 13:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)